إلحاديات ع السريع

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October 7 at 7:16pm ·
يحيي عبد الله

ملحد وبيكره الأديان.. بس مستعد جدا انه يسمع لقسيس بيتكلم علي الإسلام.
#سؤال
مين ال**** الي قالك ان ده الحاد؟

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محمد شمس عقاب


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أولئك الذين يدعون أن الإسلام (اشتراكي)، أو (ديمقراطي)؛ لم يفهموا الإسلام حق المعرفة. وإنما أرادوا الترويج لمذاهبهم فحسب.
الإسلام دين مكتمل، ومنهج حياة قائم بذاته، وهذا سر تميزه.

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أحمد سبيع


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برنامج وهم الإلحاد للأخ الحبيب د.هيثم طلعت
شعار البرنامج من تصمم الأخ Ħatem Emam فله كل الشكر وجزاه الله عنا خير الجزاء!
برومو البرنامج ترجمه للإنجليزية الأخ Lotfi Cherbel فله كل الشكر والتقدير، تقبل الله منا ومنه!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwXvlyFQCDA
للترجمة اضغط على المستطيل المجاور لعلامة الترس في فيديو اليوتيوب












برومو برنامج وهم الإلحاد للدكتور هيثم طلعت على قناة البينة Promo Program "The Illusion of Atheism"

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Smart Life

سلاسل مكافحة متلازمات العلمانية وفلسفة التفكيك
سلسلة مكافحة الشذوذ (المثلية)
الحلقة الأولي
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nta2...ature=youtu.be


- معلومات عامة
- موقف الاديان
- الفرق بين الحالات الفردية والشيوع الانحلالي في المجتمعات
- موقف الاسلام
- التفريق بين الحكم عند الادانة وبين محاولة العلاج لمن ستر الله عليه
- ازالة كثير من الاشتباهات التاريخية التى يروج لها على انها اثباتات للشذوذ تاريخيا
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أحمد سبيع


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ملخص الداروينية هو كالآتي
سلحفاة + ظروف طبيعية (حرارة و ضوء وهواء) + ملايين السنين = غزالة!
سمكة + ظروف طبيعية (حرارة وضوء وهواء) + ملايين السنين = كلب!
المستحيل + ملايين السنين = ممكن!
الدكتور قواسمة من منتدى التوحيد

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01 نشأة الإلحاد ورد شبهة وجود ملحدين قبل القرن الثامن عشر
- برنامج وهم الإلحاد د/ هيثم طلعت

لإظهار الترجمة الإنجليزية اضغط على المستطيل المجاور لرمز الترس الخاص بالجودة

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رسالة للبهايم

لو أنه كلما أجريت تجربة أعطت نتائج مخالفة لسابقتها بسبب توقفها على المصادفة أو عدم وجود قوانين مسيطرة ..
فأى تقدم كان من الممكن أن يحققه الإنسان ؟! .. سيسل هامان ..

المنطق الذى نستطيع أن نأخذ به والذى لا يمكن أن يتطرق إليه الشك هو أنه:
ليس هنالك شىء مادى يستطيع أن يخلق نفسه .. جورج إيرل ديفيز ..

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02 كيف ينظر الغرب إلى الملحد؟ - برنامج وهم الإلحاد د/ هيثم طلعت

المراجع المذكورة في الحلقة
- نسبة الملحدين في العالم 2% فقط
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...
- نسبة الملحدين في أمريكا 1.5%
http://theweek.com/article/index/2266...
- الملحدون هم أكثر طائفة مكروهة ومضطهدة في أمريكا
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/09/19/...
- لماذا يكره الأمريكيون الملحدين؟
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion...
- يقول: " لا يمكن التسامح على الإطلاق مع الذين ينكرون وجود الله .. فالوعد والعهد والقسم من حيث هي روابط المجتمع البشري ليس لها قيمة بالنسبة الى الملحد، فإنكار الله حتى لو كان بالفكر فقط يفكك جميع الأشياء ."
جون لوك، رسالة في التسامح ص57
- أغلب الشعب الأمريكي لا يقبل أن يكون معلم ابنه ملحداً
http://www.scientificamerican.com/art...
- نبذ الملحدين في دستور ولاية أركنساس
Arkansas State Constitution, Article 19 Section 1 Miscellaneous Provisions
No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any court.
- نبذ الملحدين في دستور ولاية نورث كارولينا
North Carolina's State Constitution, Article 6 Section 8
"Disqualifications of office. The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."
- وفقاً للواشنطون بوست؛ الملحد هو أكثر شخصية مكروهة على الإطلاق في أمريكا
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion...
- بحسب بحث جامعة مانيسوتا فالمسلم المتطرف والشاذ جنسيًا أقرب للأمريكي من الملحد.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/09/19/...
- في البرازيل يُعامل الملحد بنفس درجة مدمني المخدرات، ويصنف طبقًا للصحافة الرسمية البرازيلية كأحقر أقلية.
http://www.paulopes.com.br/2009/05/at...
- في أيرلندا يُحرم الملحد من التدريس في المدارس الحكومية .
http://www.irishtimes.com/premium/log...
- في اليونان يتم رسميًا اعتقال أي ملحد ومحاكمته .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_Pa...

قناة البينة على الفيس بوك
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مفاجأة القرن الواحد والعشرين
إكتشاف عدد من حالات التطور الإنتقالية وبحالة جيدة جداً (للبيع بالمزاد العلنى)

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فلسفة داروين

Lucretius is also known for being a precursor of the English geologist and natural historian Charles Darwin (1809-1882). This is so in spite of the fact that the notion of evolution is totally foreign to Lucretius, who believes in spontaneous generation of living beings from the earth. Indeed, for like Darwin, Lucretius believed that if we see beings who have properly adapted to today’s lifestyle, it is because those who were not disappeared. The summary that Lucretius makes in his description of prehistoric ages agrees fairly well with what must be called, without fearing anachronism, a natural selection

This convergence between Lucretius and Darwin is all the more interesting because the idea of selection was in fact the main innovation credited to Darwin.
Additionally, we can see how in some ways Lucretius was a forerunner of the Franco-Swiss philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778). Lucretius also attempted to explain how man, who appeared in the same way as other species, was nevertheless able to give rise to elaborate achievements such as civilization, religion, arts, metallurgy, justice and so on and so forth. Alas, most of these advances lead to further violence. According to Lucretius this is due to the love of money and luxury; humankind does not know how to limit itself. This would invariably lead to wars, which is how Lucretius explains that the first kings were overthrown. Lucretius goes further in his analysis and points out that humanity then got tired of these crimes and thus had to invented the word of the law. Lucretius noted, as would Rousseau later, that we have no evidence of these early periods, because we do not have any writings from then. Our reasoning, then, is reduced, despite Epicurean empiricism, to mere conjecture. Arguments, therefore, take the place of facts

للإشارة عند قراءة المصادر الأصلية لنظرية التطور "" العلمية "" و التي كلما تقدم العلم يثبتها و يراكم أدلتها ما شاء الله نقرأ بوضوح سخط المأسسين الحقيقين لها على الكهنة و الأديان الوثنية حتى قبل النصرانية و رؤاهم المادية وفلسفاتهم الإلحادية ونوازعهم النفسية التي تأسس لمجتمع أناني يفوز فيه صاحب القوة و أفراد ماديين شهوانيين كما دعا لذلك أبيقور و برجماتيين كما نادى أتباعه في عصر لاحق
و أفضل آخر متمنى لهم الإنتحار كما لوكريتيوس الروماني و أمبدوكليس الإغريقي .......

إعتمد empedocles على فكرة تحول الإنسان من حيوان لأساطير إغريقية عن تحول الآلهة و إرتقائها
و بمصدر آخر أيضا أساطير الدورات الكونية و تحول كائن لآخر أرقى منه بحسب الثراث الفرعوني و الهندي القديم
و قصة الوصول للنرفانا في الإرتقاء وجذورها آلتاريخية معروفة ومزاعمها

Biology
Empedocles' physics have a particularly biological focus as is indicated by his choice of the botanical metaphor of 'roots’ for what were later called 'elements'. The term ‘roots’ stresses the creative potential of the roots rather than illustrating the way they create things by being mixed in different combinations: 'elements' (stoicheia in Greek, elementa in Latin) is the word for the letters of the alphabet, and is a metaphor that stresses the ability of the elements of matter to form different types of matter by interchange of position just as a limited number of letters are able to form all sorts of different words on the page. To illustrate this aspect of the creative abilities of his roots Empedocles uses an analogy with the way painters can use a limited number of colours to create all sorts of different colours and represent all the different productions of nature
Fr. 23

As painters, men well taught by wisdom in the practice of their art, decorate temple offerings when they take in their hands pigments of various colours, and after fitting them in close combination - more of some and less of others – they produce from them shapes resembling all things, creating trees and men and women, animals and birds and water-nourished fish, and long-lived gods too, highest in honor; so let not error convince you in your mind that there is any other source for the countless perishables that are seen, but know this clearly, since the account you have heard is divinely revealed
Among other aspects, this analogy exhibits Empedocles' tendency to think about the creative abilities of the elements in terms of their biological products, here a characteristically Empedoclean list of creatures representing the different orders of nature: plants, humans, land animals, birds, and fish, as well as gods. If painters use a mixture of a small number of pigments to produce copies of the works of nature, then the same process is productive of those works of nature. In other ways as well in his presentation of the cosmic cycle and the endless combination and separation of the elements he tends to elide the distinction between the elements and the life-forms they produce. Just as in the parallel he draws between the elements of the cosmos on both microscopic and macroscopic levels, so a close parallel is drawn between living creatures and their constituent elements
أرجو قراءة هذه الفقرة جيدا (!)
a. Origin of Species
Empedocles presents us with the earliest extant attempt at producing a detailed rational mechanism for the origin of species. Greek traditions include the aetiological myths of the origin of a particular species of animal by transformation from a human being (many of these ancient mythological aetiologies are collected by Ovid in the Metamorphoses). The origins of humans, or of particular heroes, founders of cities or of races is frequently explained by what I term a botanical analogy: they originally emerged autochthonously from the ground just as plants do today, and this is also standard in ancient scientific theories as well: the original spontaneous generation of life from the earth, with all creatures emerging in their present species. Empedocles attempts to provide a comprehensive mechanism for the origins not simply of humans or of a particular animal but of all animal life, including humans, and a rational mechanism that would seem to do away with the need for any design in creatures or any external agency to order them and separate them into their individual species

In Strasbourg fr. a(ii) 23-30 we now find the following lines in which Empedocles seemingly introduces his

account of zoogony

I will show you to your eyes too, where they find a larger body: first the coming together and the unfolding of birth, and as many as are now remaining of this generation. This [is to be seen] among the wilder species of mountain-roaming beasts; this [is to be seen] in the twofold offspring of men, this [is to be seen] in the produce of the root-bearing fields and of the cluster of grapes mounting on the vine. From these convey to your mind unerring proofs of my account: for you will see the coming together and unfolding of birth.
Empedocles promises an exposition of zoogony and the origin of species which, from the examples he gives - wild animals, humans and plants - is clearly intended to encompass all animal and plant life, including humans. He appeals to present day species as proofs of his theories: we can see both the products of this process of zoogony around us in nature today and also, it seems, we can see the same processes still going on today. That the theory refers to present day species rather than creatures in some counter world is underlined by the stress Empedocles puts on 'as many as are now remaining of this generation'. So the theory is intended to explain the origin and development of all life and refers specifically to the animals and plants around us today, both as examples of and as proofs of the theory he will propose. This process of generation he describes by the repeated 'the coming together and the unfolding of birth'. This seems to posit two processes which work, either together or separately, to produce the life we see around us today: a process of coming together and also a process of unfolding or perhaps more strictly 'unleafing' since the metaphor originates from the leaves of plants. So the second part of this process of zoogony involves a botanical metaphor: just as in the traditional botanical analogy of the myths of autochthony, an appeal to the development and growth of plants is used to describe the process of the development of all life

According to fragments B57, B59, B60, and B61, first of all individual limbs and organs were produced from the earth. These wandered separately at first and then under the combining power of Love they came together in all sorts of wild and seemingly random hybrid combinations, producing double fronted creatures, hermaphrodites, ox-faced man creatures and man-faced ox-creatures. This weird picture is explained by Aristotle in the Physics and later in more detail by Simplicius in his commentary on the Physics as a theory of the origin of species in which, as we would put it, a certain form of natural selection is operative. The creatures assembled wrongly from parts of disparate animals will die out, either immediately, or by being unable to breed, and only the creatures by chance put together from homogeneous limbs will survive and so go on to found the species that we see today. The production of species and their ordering then is explained by a mechanistic process long recognised as a forerunner of Darwin's theory of natural selection. Unlike in Darwin's theory however, there would seem to be no gradual evolution of one species into another, and all of the variety of nature is produced in a great burst of birth in the beginning and is then whittled down by extinctions into the creatures we see today. That this theory intends to account for the origins of both humans and animals is ensured by the component parts of the ox-headed man-creatures and man-headed ox-creatures. There will clearly also be created by this system man-headed man-creatures and ox-headed ox-creatures, that is to say normal oxen and normal humans, although they are not mentioned. Further evidence that this zoogony relates to present day creatures is given by Aristotle and Simplicius who tell us that this process is still going on today

However, Empedocles also adds to this theory another explanation of the origins of humans very much along the lines of traditional myths of autochthony. In fr. B62 and Strasbourg fr. d he describes the 'shoots' of men and women arising from the earth, drawn up by fire as it separates out from the other elements during the creation under the power of increasing Strife. As his choice of the word 'shoots' indicates these are not yet fully articulated people with distinct limbs but ‘whole-nature forms’ that ‘did not as yet show the lovely shape of limbs, or voice or language native to man'. We may assume that as Strife increases in power these 'shoots’ will, just as plant buds do, gradually become fully articulated with distinct limbs and features. So human origins are accounted for by a botanical analogy, with humans as biological productions of the earth itself. This theory is also intended to account for modern-day as humans, as Strasbourg fr. d tells us 'even now daylight beholds their remains'. So both the creation under Love and the creation under Strife refer to the origins of modern plants, animals, and humans. This is problematic since according to the picture of the cosmic cycle given above the world created by Strife is quite separate from that created by Love, and two quite different explanations are given by Empedocles for each creation of life. Various attempts have been made to account for this, including a radical revision of the cosmic cycle in order to allow both creations of life to take place within the same world, and also seeing the two different worlds of the cosmic cycle as more useful devices for examining different aspects of creation separately than absolutely chronologically separate phases of a cycle: the work of Love in combining creatures and the work of Strife in articulating them would then actually take place at the same time, but are simply described as operative in chronologically separate phases

b. Embryology
Empedocles is an exponent of the pangenetic theory of embryology. In this theory inheritance of characteristics from both mother and father is explained by each of the two parents' limbs and organs creating tiny copies of themselves. These miniature limbs and organs then flow together in the generative seed and when the two seeds combine in the womb the father's seed may provide the model for the nose, while the mother's seed the model for the eyes and so on. This is an elegant way of accounting for inheritance of characteristics, but this is unlikely to be the whole story. As Aristotle points out there are strong conceptual similarities between Empedocles' embryology and the creation under Love in which we see the coming together of pre-formed limbs creating life. So Empedocles thinks of the original formation of animals as a process analogous to the present day formation of the embryo in the womb. From his description in Strasbourg fr. a (ii) 23-30 'the coming together and unfolding of birth' we seem to have two processes that are at work in the formation of both present day creatures and the original creation of life. The 'coming together' describes both the original coming together of the limbs of the first creatures and also the coming together of the tiny limbs in conception. The other side of the creative process, the 'unfolding' is illustrated by the creation under Strife of the ‘shoots of men and pitiable women’ whose limbs are at first not fully articulated or defined: they will undergo a process of 'unfolding' just like plant buds and become fully developed humans. This 'unfolding' is clearly paralleled in embryology by the gradual development and growth of the embryo in the womb. Therefore it may be best to think of the tiny limbs and organs contained in the generative seed not as fully developed limbs and organs, but as the genetic material that contains the potential for the development of limbs and organs. This is so mewhat speculative, but would provide Empedocles with a much more nearly truly evolutionary theory of the origin of species than had previously been ascribed to him. Certainly the differentiation into the two sexes is described in terms of potential: the warmth of the womb determines whether the embryo will be male or female, cf. fr B 65: 'They were poured in pure places; some met with cold and became women', fr. B 67: 'For the male was warmer . . . this is the reason why men are dark, more powerfully built, and hairier’. It may be that other characteristics are also determined or informed by environmental factors as well

http://www.iep.utm.edu/empedocl/#SH4a

ومع ذلك يزعمون أن التطور نتاج المنهجية العلمية بعصر الأنوار على يد العبقري دارون

منتدى التوحيد ..

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طالبة علم وتقوى ..

من الأهداف أن يُميّع أخيرا الإستفسار المشروع أين هي الحلقات الإنتقالية التي تثبت بالفعل أن الأحياء ظهرت و تطورت أجسادها حسب خط تحول تصاعدي ؟ stratomorphic intermediates

جواب إيفو ديفو EVO-DEVO : بضربة حظ من قبيل تطفر جين قائد أو مجرد تثبيطه فعدلت خطة التركيب فقفزنا من زاحف لحوت و فقست البيضة فأعطت قردا! لا أهزأ إنه فعلا منطق الدراونة الجديد بشكل كاريكاتوري بلى لكنه صحيح تماما و إن لم يصرح به بهذا الشكل

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أحمد سبيع


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بعد قليل الحلقة الثالثة من برنامج وهم الإلحاد د.هيثم طلعت على قناة البينة لمقارنة الأديان والرد على الشبهات
انتظروا
الحلقة السابقة
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbTiGIMgozs








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الكتب المذكورة في الحلقة :

عقيدة المؤمن .. أبو بكر الجزائري
http://IslamHouse.com/2428

الوجيز في فقه السنة والكتاب العزيز للدكتور عبد العظيم بدوي
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/ar/ih_b...

تيسير مصطلح الحديث لمحمود الطحان
http://IslamHouse.com/469533

علم أصول الفقه لعبد الوهاب خلاف
http://www.saaid.net/book/open.php?ca...

اللؤلؤ و المؤجان فيما اتفق عليه الشيخان
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/ar/ih_b...

٣ مجلدات موسوعة الرد على الملحدين العرب
http://www.laelhad.com/files/media/bo...

كتاب كهنة الإلحاد الجديد
http://laelhad.com/index.php?p=8-0-92

كتاب آلة الموحدين لكشف خرافات الطبيعيين
http://www.eld3wah.net/play-6751.html

ثلاث رسائل في الإلحاد والعلم والإيمان
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

قناة البينة على الفيس بوك
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دكتور هيثم طلعت على الفيس بوك
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هادي سمير


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إزاي تنفر واحد من فكرة صحيحة ومنطقيـة ؟
حاول تربطها بشئ مستقبح ومرفوض عنده ..وركز علي إنك عاوز توصله إن الفكرة الأولي المُستحسنة عنده هي السبب في أننا نوصل للشئ المُستقبح لدي الجميع
مثال
أخطـاء الإسلاميين السبب فيها هو الدين
وبكده يا معلم هتلاقي البرنس ده بكل سهولة بقي يرفض الإتنين
وهو ده اللي عمله الإعلام في الناس

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رد: إلحاديات ع السريع

هادي سمير


Yesterday at 1:12am ·

كل واحد يخويا تيجي تكلمه يقولك "مفيش حقيقة مطلقة"
وبالنسبة للحقيقة اللي أنت قلتها ياعم من شوية ديه مش مطلقة برضو!!
#الحشيش_وحش

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