The New Proof That Jesus Did Not Die

[deedate82]

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In Greek language, which was the language of the Gospels, there are two opposite words for body; SOMA & PTOMA. SOMA (σωμα ) is used only for a living body while PTOMA (ποιησω ) means a deady body

".John 19:38 says "With Pilate's permission, he came and took the body away.

John 19:40 says "They took the body and wrapped in linean cloth with spices according to Jewish customs of burial"

Luke 23:55 says "The women who had come with Jesus from Galilee followed Joseph and saw the tomb and how his body was laid in it. "

The Greek word used to desribe the status of the body of Jesus when Jesus was taken from the cross was "SOMA" in the above-mentioned verses. The Greek word "SOMA" which was used to desribe the body of Jesus means in Greek only a living body.

Therefore, Jesus did not die.

I was told so by a former priest and I also confirmed with my Greek New Testament

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[م. عمـرو المصري]

Dear brother . .what is mentioned above is not entirly right .. as the word soma in greek may mean a dead body and to be sure of my words see

Mat 14:12 فَتَقَدَّمَ تَلاَمِيذُهُ وَرَفَعُوا الْجَسَدَ وَدَفَنُوهُ. ثُمَّ أَتَوْا وَأَخْبَرُوا يَسُوعَ.
Mat 14:12 And his disciples came, and took up the body, and buried it, and went and told Jesus.

and the Greek word used here is also soma ... and it's for a dead body ..

Mat 14:12 και προσελθοντες οι μαθηται αυτου ηραν το σωμα και εθαψαν αυτο και ελθοντες απηγγειλαν τω ιησου

May Allah reward you dear brother!

Jazak Allah Khayran ...

[deedate82]

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is not true my brother that soma can mean a body because Father Ed's Homily says “The Greeks had two words for "body ": soma and ptoma. Soma refers to a living person, a body animated by a soul. Ptoma on the other hand, refers to a dead person, a corpse. What is interesting is that Luke uses "soma" when he speaks of "the body" of Jesus. He is not referring to a corpse, but to a living person! Even when Joseph of Arimathea took "the body" of Jesus down from the cross, and when the women saw where Jesus’ "body" was laid, the word Luke uses is "soma" meaning the living person of Jesus."

Also Translatum.gr Greek Dictionary says “dead body (is) πτώμα, σορός, κουφάρι.” However, the Greek word “σώμα”, which means a living body, is not used for a dead body.
Also Apocalyptic Hope says “"Carcase" ("ptoma") is a negative word implying an empty casing. “Body"("soma") is a positive term implying a living organism."

Mentioning that Matthew 14:12 uses SOMA to desribe the dead body of John the Baptist was replaced by the PTOMA by Tischendorf 8th Edition who was the discovererAlexendrian Manuscript. Please refer to http://bible.cc/matthew/14-12.htm

Please note that the word "Ptoma" was not used to desribe the body of Jesus.

[م. عمـرو المصري]

You are right dear brother .. reviewing the codex sinaticus, I've found that it reads Matt 14:12 "ptoma" not "soma" .. but one thing I'm trying to find an explanation to .. which is Mark 15:45 describes the body of jesus with the word "ptoma" that's according to Westcott & Hort text .. but in the other hand the textus receptus "Recieved Text" or the so called majority text reads it "soma" .. looool

I'll find it myself if Allah wills ..

Great Notation dear brother .. May Allah reward you .. Great Work & Well Done!

Waiting 4 More dear brother ...

[deedate82]

even if we go by the vaticanus manuscript that the body of Jesus was PTOMA in Mark 15:45, we will find that Jesus was SOMA when was liad in the tomb. This means that Jesus looked dead when was on the cross, but Jesus was still soma in Luke 23:55 after was healed by the spices in John 19:39

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